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June 2002

Dr. Paul Schenker
Director, Planetary Robotics Laboratory
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Dr. Paul Schenker is the director of the Planetary Robotics Laboratory at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, CA. The organization is responsible for all research and development in mobility and robotics, and is developing a series of rover prototypes for planetary surface exploration.


NASA Tech Briefs: What is the purpose of the rovers?

Dr. Paul Schenker: The general purpose of the all terrain exploration task was to develop new rovers and supporting technology that could go into more difficult terrain. Examples would be terrain that is rough, and particularly, terrain that is sloped. Current rovers have a hard time traveling through rather rocky, dense areas, or up slopes that are more than 15-20 degrees. It’s now thought that some of the most exciting planetary science will be near water outflows at craters’ edges. We want to drive rovers up or down to such an area to get to the interesting science.

NTB: How have these rovers performed in clinical demonstrations?

Schenker: They’ve done well. We basically first developed the technology in the laboratory. That technology includes not only re-configurable rovers ? meaning ones that could change their shape and the positioning of their mechanical parts, their legs, structure, and wheels ? but new algorithms that can take what the rovers see, literally, and adapt their control and traction as they go into steeper areas. It’s similar to how a human or a dog changes footing, squats down, and gets prepared to go up a steep hill, or go down.

One of the things we first did was develop a small rover that we actually called the All-Terrain Explorer, and we were able to go into regions as steep as 50 degrees in slope. That was something of a breakthrough and was enabled by on-board autonomous capabilities.

NTB: How does a rover work?

Schenker: We give the rover behaviors or skills whereby it can adapt when it sees a region with its computer vision or 3D terrain mapping. Then, it has a control routine whereby it changes its basic drive strategy to deal with the surrounding conditions. So it’s kind of an animal-like paradigm, but a rather intelligent one.

NTB: Is there a newer prototype?

Schenker: The more exciting aspect of this project, most recently, is the development of something called the Cliff-bot. What’s very exciting about this, is that it’s not one robot, but three. This is a true robot team with distributed intelligence and sensing. Two of the robots are at the top of the cliff and they are referred to as the Anchor or Tether-bot, which assist the Cliff-bot.. There are tethers attached to the Cliff-bot itself forming a triangle ? two at the top and then the two tethers going down. The robot that is going up and down the cliff is actively driving; it’s not just being lowered. It actually has a set of distributed controls that is enabling it to very carefully make decisions about how best to drive down as it experiences changing forces in the cables and the tethers. A good analogy would be a human climber with two expert assistants.

What is very exciting about that in terms of the applications of future missions is the promise of a robot being able to go to these very steep cliff edges where there might be mineral water outflows. Using these rovers, we can a look where we’ve never being able to go before.

We are also working on a robot work crew. That is another similar development where we have two robots as a true team that is designed to carry around large payloads. They actually completely autonomously go to and recognize the presence of the payload, dock with it, pick it up, and carry it through natural occluded terrain, meaning you have to do hazard avoidance and deposit it. Why would you care about something like that? Because if you have that kind of robotic intelligence then you have the potential for robots going in advance of humans to Mars in the future and preparing the way.

NTB: How long do you think it will be before the rovers are utilized in planetary applications?

Schenker: This is in the distant future. We have actually proved these concepts out ? we’ve gone outdoors and we’ve done these things in realistic simulated terrains ? but it will be many years, I think, before we see NASA fly such technology - perhaps a good ten to 20 years. At JPL we are doing the advanced work, research and development, and the basic enabling technologies needed like algorithms and new mechanical designs, new sensory techniques, and the onboard autonomous control. These things have been developed and they’ve been integrated in the research prototypes, which have been operated outdoors in realistic settings.

NTB: Do you foresee any terrestrial applications?

Schenker: Absolutely. The onboard intelligence, or the autonomy, is the research basis for making robots smarter infield. I think we’ll see the robot team idea have importance in things like military applications and for search and rescue type applications. If someone is in trouble, you can deploy a robot into a difficult hilly region. We haven’t done anything like that for terrestrial applications. Our work as been NASA-based, but these technologies are potentially important for terrestrial and military applications.

NTB: What other projects have you been involved with?

Schenker: More recently I was the founding investigator of work on the SIDO rover ? the Sealed Integrated Design and Operations rover. That rover has been the advanced technology prototype supporting much of the upcoming Mars exploration. Other things I’ve worked on in the past include the development of robotic arms and advanced control for planetary sampling. Another project is robot-assisted microsurgery (RAMS), which is a system for dexterity-enhanced microsurgery. It’s something where the surgeon makes a tele-operated input, so when the surgeon’s hand moves, it scales the surgery down by a factor of ten and it also filters out the tremors, allowing doctors to do remarkable surgery. That technology is now on its way to market applications.

NTB: What is the goal of the Planetary Robotics Laboratory?

Schenker: That is the place where we do the work for the future. This is an organization of about 85 people whose interests include the broad range of technology for both NASA and non-NASA robotics. The expertise here spans machine vision, robotic navigation, onboard robotic autonomy, operation interfaces, and mechanical design. So you can think of us as the place you go to develop mobility and robotics. I’m very excited because JPL has formed this organization to bring our best and brightest together. Our basic roles here are to find the basic systems that NASA will fly to the solar system. That cover three areas: aerial ? like balloons, blimps, or aerobots ? planetary rovers, and sub-surface systems or cryobots which intelligently burrow through ice layers and can explore underlying motions.

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